An Interview about Cattle Mutilations

An Interview about Cattle Mutilations:
With Chuck & Stan Mosser
BY
L. A. MARZULLI

FROM THE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER: WWW.SPIRALOFLIFE.COM

L.A. Marzulli: Can you give us a background of where you were and what you did that brought you in contact with the first cattle mutilation?
Stan: I was taking care of cattle out there on the desert, we were checking the water at the Harrison Well, and there was a cow lying up near the water that had been mutilated.
Charlie: On the BLM leases, you have remote watering areas that are fed via a well with a small engine to pump the water out. These required driving to the wells and go through a couple of tanks of gas until the troughs were full. We were checking the water troughs at the Harrison Well, near Fort Rock when we noticed a dead cow lying about a 100 feet from the troughs.

L.A. Marzulli: When did you first see it?
Stan: I was looking at the pump, and the two boys noticed the dead cow, which wasn’t a big deal at first, finding a dead cow isn’t rare out there…. I first noticed her udder was cut out in a circle along with her sexual organs. Also, I noticed one of the eyes were gone; I believe it was the left eye.
Charlie: My friend and I first saw the cow, and pointed it out to my dad. After starting the well engine, he walked over to check her teeth, and noticed it was a young cow. (The older a cow gets, the less teeth they have) He did a quick check of the cow to make sure she hadn’t been shot when he noticed the mutilation.

L.A. Marzulli: Where did this take place? What year was this?
Stan: My son was a junior in high school. It should have been the summer of 1990.
Charlie: The Harrison Well, about 20 miles North of Fort Rock. It was the summer of 1990.

L.A. Marzulli: What about carnivores as a possible answer for the mutilation?
Stan: No. That wasn’t it. I can tell when coyotes or something have been eating on a dead cow. In fact, coyotes wouldn’t touch her. Even the birds wouldn’t touch the cow. She just decomposed from the insects.
This wasn’t animals. These were surgical cuts with a sharp instrument.
Charlie: Not unless chipmunks and coyotes carry pocketknives. These were geometric incisions. When animals eat a carcass, they’ll be sloppy about it, usually starting with orifices (eyes, anus, etc.), and working their way out from there.

L.A. Marzulli: Did you go to the police?
Stan: You bet. And I might have well gone to the dogcatcher. They came off with crazy ideas as to what was doing it… when they finally did come out and do an investigation. Later, they looked at the hay we were feeding them, and sent it off to a lab. They came back and said there were potential toxins in the grass hay that were causing the dead cattle. We had bought that hay from the ZX ranch, which was one of the biggest ranches in the nation at the time. They were feeding their cattle with it.
I argued that using that logic, ALL of the cows should be dead, not just some, and not just ours… and that still didn’t explain the mutilations. They responded that it was carnivores. “Carnivorous forest animals” was the reason they gave for it. Ridiculous.
I said that wouldn’t be possible. It was like talking to a wall.
The state police were the most difficult to deal with, the deputy sheriff was more accommodating, but eventually threw his hands up as well.

L.A. Marzulli: What did the animal look like?
Stan: It was a black cow, as I remember, and maybe 5-6 years old. Had a calf. The calf wasn’t standing there, found him a day or so later wandering in the desert bawling from hunger.

L.A. Marzulli: What was missing from the animal?
Charlie: The udder, and eyeball and the anus/vaginal area.

L.A. Marzulli: Were there any tracks near it?
Stan: No, that’s the weird thing. No tracks and no blood, not even a sign of a struggle. Her own calf hadn’t been near her, either.
Charlie: No, that was the strange part. There were no tracks, not even her own. Usually, when an animal dies, the other animals will walk around it out of curiosity… but that wasn’t the case with these. There were no drag marks, and the bunch/cheat grass around her wasn’t disturbed, either. It was like she was gently lowered into position.

L.A. Marzulli: Did you see anything unusual that aroused your suspicions?
Stan: I later on did. I can remember when the boys and me were out there after the mutilations started happening, and I asked them “Do you feel like there’s somebody staring at us?” We had all had that feeling when we went there for several days. So, a few days later, I walked up to a lava outcropping/ledge about 1/2 mile from the well. The edge of an area called The Devil’s Garden. I found a cave, and in there were signs that people had been there recently. I found some occult paraphernalia, weird things and scraps. I can’t recall everything I found, but I do recall a pentagram woven from grass/straw, and several pieces of cloth, about 3-4 inches in diameter.

L.A. Marzulli: What do you think caused this?
Stan: I think it’s something our own county did. Military or something.
Charlie: UFO’s? Cults? I disagree with my dad here. Logic would suggest that government would carve up their own cows rather than sneak around the Western U.S. stealing rancher’s cattle. Due to the occult trinkets, I would have to go with cults.

L.A. Marzulli: How many of these did you witness or come in contact with?
Stan: We lost 28 cows. They were all lost basically the same way. Just different missing parts. On one, they hadn’t taken the udders at all.
Charlie: I lost count. I found one lying on its side, and it had pushed part way through a BLM fence, pulling up a couple of steel fence posts in the process. It had its lower jaw stripped of flesh, all the way down to white bone. Just the lower jaw. The horse wouldn’t go near it.

L.A. Marzulli: Did you ever have any feelings… fear, unsettledness, nervousness, excitement?
Stan: Yeah, out there riding around by myself I did. Now I don’t.
Charlie: No, I don’t. It was just weird looking back on it. At the time, it had me a little scared. It wasn’t uncommon to have the feeling you were being watched every once in a while. The ranch had armed us with several guns in each rig. We weren’t sure who/what we were dealing with.

L.A. Marzulli: Did you ever see any phenomena that might be associated with the mutilations?
Stan: No, but me and my boss saw a helicopter fly overhead around four in the afternoon that didn’t make any noise. We looked at each other after it had passed and said, “Did you see that?”. Never saw it again.
Charlie: I never saw any helicopters, but it wasn’t uncommon to see military planes (usually military cargo planes) flying low over that area. There was/is a big radar base about 25 miles to the east in Christmas Valley. It’s strange. You would have thought we would have seen SOMETHING. We even hired a couple of people to drive around all night looking for anything odd. They wouldn’t see anything, yet we would have a dead cow or two the next day.

L.A. Marzulli: Are they continuing today?
Stan: Not that I’ve heard of.
Charlie: Yes. They seem to peak about every ten years. We had some more happen East of Bend in 2000. Several calves were found mutilated if memory serves right. I’m no longer working out there, so I’m out of the loop for the most part.

L.A. Marzulli: What are your final thoughts?
Stan: The cops wouldn’t help you a damn bit. They wouldn’t patrol at night with me, either.
Their reasons ranged from, “My sergeant told me to stay out of it”; to they were just too busy.
Charlie: I don’t think there’s anything you can do. Whatever is doing it tends to stay around desolate areas, and it does so quietly. The first cow was left in a place where we were sure to find it. Some (like the cow with the stripped lower jaw) were in the middle of nowhere, well off any road. If it’s just a bizarre cult, my hats off to them for having the guts to venture into those pastures with the type of men we had patrolling them.

POLITICS, PROPHECY &THE SUPERNATURAL
BY: L. A. MARZULLI
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